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		<title>By: Kestrel</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.com/2007/10/voice-chat-initial-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, that&#039;s great stuff, Mana!! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, that&#8217;s great stuff, Mana!! <img src='http://kestrelsaerie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mana Battery Bitch</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.com/2007/10/voice-chat-initial-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Mana Battery Bitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 06:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ventrilo payer in my guild and me decided that we&#039;re gonna keep using vent. We&#039;re so in love with DJ&#039;ing for each other and anyone else who cares that we have a permanent radio channel set up on our vent server.

Best tanking song ever: Elton John - I&#039;m Still Standing
Best Onyxia song: Dream Evil - Chasing the Dragon
Best song for parading up Valley of Heroes with Ony&#039;s head afterwards: Dream Evil - Chosen Ones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ventrilo payer in my guild and me decided that we&#8217;re gonna keep using vent. We&#8217;re so in love with DJ&#8217;ing for each other and anyone else who cares that we have a permanent radio channel set up on our vent server.</p>
<p>Best tanking song ever: Elton John &#8211; I&#8217;m Still Standing<br />
Best Onyxia song: Dream Evil &#8211; Chasing the Dragon<br />
Best song for parading up Valley of Heroes with Ony&#8217;s head afterwards: Dream Evil &#8211; Chosen Ones</p>
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		<title>By: Necro</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.com/2007/10/voice-chat-initial-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Necro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PTT is the only way to go.  My group has tried Voice Activated and what I end up hearing is random conversations between players and the people they live with, TV shows, parents yelling at kids, and everyone hearing my wife yell at me about why we don&#039;t have milk in the fridge.  PTT is priceless, I mute those who don&#039;t use it (I don&#039;t mute people in raid)

Blizzards implementation of voice chat has left me uninterested.  Sure I tried it out.  No one could hear me, then a friend told me to put my mic input to its highest everywhere.  So I did, 300% input gain and I sounded like a whisper.  I&#039;m sure there are more setting I need to configure to get it to sound better but my guild has a vent server so I am not too worried.  If they get rid of the vent server then I&#039;ll worry about making it usable.

The other problem with voice chat.  Me and 3 close friends rerolled and are leveling up again.  We always need 1 more DPS for a group.  We can 4 man stuff but it&#039;s quicker with 5.  The last thing I want to hear is some random rogue who is constantly talking about his weapons and screaming out what crits he gets and his DPS and so on. I think everyone knows what I&#039;m talking about and if you don&#039;t then youre probably that person whether you&#039;re a rogue or not.  (Usually it&#039;s a rogue, but it doesn&#039;t have to be).  Its easier for me to say &quot;Sorry I couldn&#039;t get voice chat to work&quot;.

Necroleanan - Mage
Calandris - Priest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PTT is the only way to go.  My group has tried Voice Activated and what I end up hearing is random conversations between players and the people they live with, TV shows, parents yelling at kids, and everyone hearing my wife yell at me about why we don&#8217;t have milk in the fridge.  PTT is priceless, I mute those who don&#8217;t use it (I don&#8217;t mute people in raid)</p>
<p>Blizzards implementation of voice chat has left me uninterested.  Sure I tried it out.  No one could hear me, then a friend told me to put my mic input to its highest everywhere.  So I did, 300% input gain and I sounded like a whisper.  I&#8217;m sure there are more setting I need to configure to get it to sound better but my guild has a vent server so I am not too worried.  If they get rid of the vent server then I&#8217;ll worry about making it usable.</p>
<p>The other problem with voice chat.  Me and 3 close friends rerolled and are leveling up again.  We always need 1 more DPS for a group.  We can 4 man stuff but it&#8217;s quicker with 5.  The last thing I want to hear is some random rogue who is constantly talking about his weapons and screaming out what crits he gets and his DPS and so on. I think everyone knows what I&#8217;m talking about and if you don&#8217;t then youre probably that person whether you&#8217;re a rogue or not.  (Usually it&#8217;s a rogue, but it doesn&#8217;t have to be).  Its easier for me to say &#8220;Sorry I couldn&#8217;t get voice chat to work&#8221;.</p>
<p>Necroleanan &#8211; Mage<br />
Calandris &#8211; Priest</p>
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		<title>By: Kestrel</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.com/2007/10/voice-chat-initial-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh...good observation there, Daxenos. Makes me wonder exactly how Blizz does that. But it&#039;s encouraging that there are some definite cases where WoW Voice Chat is viable for more than just pugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh&#8230;good observation there, Daxenos. Makes me wonder exactly how Blizz does that. But it&#8217;s encouraging that there are some definite cases where WoW Voice Chat is viable for more than just pugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Daxenos</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.com/2007/10/voice-chat-initial-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Daxenos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve use both TS and Vent, and for our guild, the WoW voice system may be the best.  Two of our members live in Africa, and on the Vent channel there is a lot of noise.  There was no noise on the WoW voice channel...WOOOT for us!  Also, Vent &gt; TS any day of the week as far as my experience has been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve use both TS and Vent, and for our guild, the WoW voice system may be the best.  Two of our members live in Africa, and on the Vent channel there is a lot of noise.  There was no noise on the WoW voice channel&#8230;WOOOT for us!  Also, Vent &gt; TS any day of the week as far as my experience has been.</p>
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		<title>By: Kestrel</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.com/2007/10/voice-chat-initial-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ratshag: LOL! Touché.

@TJ: Thanks for stopping by. And yes...you do make a good point for PTT, and I think in a PUG I&#039;d probably lean that way myself. However, my mantra is &quot;Friends don&#039;t let friends PUG.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ratshag: LOL! Touché.</p>
<p>@TJ: Thanks for stopping by. And yes&#8230;you do make a good point for PTT, and I think in a PUG I&#8217;d probably lean that way myself. However, my mantra is &#8220;Friends don&#8217;t let friends PUG.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.com/2007/10/voice-chat-initial-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t tried out the in game voice chat yet, as I haven&#039;t really needed to. I don&#039;t get on Vent to chat, just to listen, as I&#039;m one of those damn non-verbal types, who types all responses to spoken questions.

HowEVer, I used to be a raid leader (I do talk, sometimes, under proper circumstances, if all the stars are aligned) and I have to say I&#039;m a huge proponent of push to talk, as in the middle of a raid we had a young teenager with voice activation on who was caught in a bit of a... private moment... and it was a good 10 minutes before I stop blushing enough to continue with MC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t tried out the in game voice chat yet, as I haven&#8217;t really needed to. I don&#8217;t get on Vent to chat, just to listen, as I&#8217;m one of those damn non-verbal types, who types all responses to spoken questions.</p>
<p>HowEVer, I used to be a raid leader (I do talk, sometimes, under proper circumstances, if all the stars are aligned) and I have to say I&#8217;m a huge proponent of push to talk, as in the middle of a raid we had a young teenager with voice activation on who was caught in a bit of a&#8230; private moment&#8230; and it was a good 10 minutes before I stop blushing enough to continue with MC.</p>
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		<title>By: Ratshag</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.com/2007/10/voice-chat-initial-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Ratshag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hardly ever pug (&#039;cause I&#039;s shy) and me guild has TS, but I got friends who pug a lot and I know they&#039;d like to have better communications in the dungeons, so I hopes Blizzard fixes the bads and uglies you identified.

And no Kestrel, you&#039;s not THAT boring. We&#039;s just THAT lazy about commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hardly ever pug (&#8217;cause I&#8217;s shy) and me guild has TS, but I got friends who pug a lot and I know they&#8217;d like to have better communications in the dungeons, so I hopes Blizzard fixes the bads and uglies you identified.</p>
<p>And no Kestrel, you&#8217;s not THAT boring. We&#8217;s just THAT lazy about commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.com/2007/10/voice-chat-initial-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was a good idea to put it in game for PUGS. it will make things alot easier in them from now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was a good idea to put it in game for PUGS. it will make things alot easier in them from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: Kestrel</title>
		<link>http://kestrelsaerie.com/2007/10/voice-chat-initial-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t agree with you more, Matt, and I should have made that point more strongly: There is NO NEED to use Blizzard&#039;s voice chat if you have a suitable alternative, even one that isn&#039;t free.

While I don&#039;t want to turn this into a Skype love-fest (there are plenty of good/bad/ugly things there as well), it does fill a niche between WoW Chat and Vent/TS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree with you more, Matt, and I should have made that point more strongly: There is NO NEED to use Blizzard&#8217;s voice chat if you have a suitable alternative, even one that isn&#8217;t free.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t want to turn this into a Skype love-fest (there are plenty of good/bad/ugly things there as well), it does fill a niche between WoW Chat and Vent/TS.</p>
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